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origRightPadding=document.body.style.paddingRight; document.body.style.paddingRight="130px"; function sideFrameOff(){ document.getElementById('sideFrame').style.display='none'; document.body.style.paddingRight=origRightPadding; } Tobacco TalkbyDan Di Francesco - tobaccogyo@yahoo.com I have tobacco seeds, cigar leaf, rolling instructions and my method of growing tobacco from seed. My name is Dan Di Francesco and I welcome you, your email and your orders. If ordering please Make out the check or money order to: Dan Di Francesco and send it to: 552 Lloyd Rd, Oxford, Pa. 19363. I used to include a link to a special site that I created, with an order, but I've decided to post it here: http://tobaccotalk.itgo.com/clientlink.htm I hope it helps out. This site will give you information on transplanting, harvesting, drying and curing. It begins where this page leaves off. The site has a guide, with pictures, on how I roll cigars. There is also section on how I prepare cigarette tobacco for shredding and how I shred it.I have a good looking #16 cigar tobacco. That's the only tobacco leaf that I sell. It’s a versatile “straight strip“ leaf. That’s where the tobacco plant is stripped without grading. Each pound should give you plenty of filler, binder and wrapper. I would guesstimate that a pound should yield between 12 to 25 cigars. The quantity would, of course, depend on the size of the cigars that you roll. The tobacco is from the September 2007 harvest, it’s not fermented but it’s air dried and barn cured for at least three months. Some people ferment the tobacco when they get it but most don’t. Personally, I don’t ferment it and it has worked just fine for me.I’ll ship any amount up to five pounds, USPS Priority. The reason I ship priority only, is because parcel post has a five to ten day delivery time it could mold if boxed for that long. Priority is two to three day delivery. I ship the leaf moist and pliable so that you can handle it and it won't get banged up and crumble while in transit. When it arrives, open the box right away and let it breathe. Yes, the high fuel prices have even hit the Amish farmer. My guy told me that he had to raise the price of the tobacco by fifty cents so the price is now $6.50 a pound plus, of course, the shipping charge. You can figure the shipping cost by going to: http://postcalc.usps.gov/ add one pound to the weight of the tobacco that you want. This allows for the box. I am shipping from zip code 17560. Well there it is. To order, make out a check or money order to: Dan Di Francesco and send it to: Dan Di Francesco, 552 Lloyd Rd, Oxford, Pa. 19363. I've been getting a lot of letters asking if I'm still in business and if the prices are the same and such. I understand the concern. I haven't been a very good webmaster. So here you go; This page is current and all is as it has been and will stay the same, prices and products that is. I am here and this is the week of, December 1, 2008. By the way, if anyone wants to know if I am the real deal or not. . .This web site has been here and I've been doing business from this same web site for over six (6) years. To date there haven't been any negative unresolved issues, and I don't intend for there ever to be one. My policy is a bit antiquated but it works for me, "the customer is always right". You can take that for what it's worth. I want to say something right off the bat. The advertisement banners that you see plastered all over the place and the pop ups are not of my doing. I hate them. They are the price that I have to pay in order to get this free web site. They are the price that visitors have to pay in order to get the products that I offer at the prices I offer them. Maybe some day when I get to be a large conglomerate with subsidiaries located all over the world and in the future when I branch out into other planetary systems and looking still further into the future when I enter the quantum realm and have sites in multiple dimensions, maybe then I'll spring for a few bucks and get a clean web site free of pesky ads and be able to raise prices to astronomical heights. But for now, this is it. I started a bulletin board it's called MCP. I am inviting anyone who wants to visit and marvel at the postings or add something, be my guest. Here's the link http://disc.yourwebapps.com/Indices/186318.html Table of contents:Handy Hints, Tidbits and Misc. ItemsCigarette Tobacco BlendsCigar RollingOff The Deep EndTobacco is an easy plant to grow but it's not a simple plant, it has a mystique about it that's undeniable. I've been growing tobacco for over 14 years and I feel like I'm only beginning to learn about this beautiful plant. I'm located here in the midst of Pennsylvania Dutch country, Lancaster County. This is also where some of the finest smoking and chewing tobaccos are grown, mostly by the Amish. I've learned a lot from some of my Amish friends and neighbors. I'll pass what I've learned on to you as well as some techniques that I've developed on my own.Along the way I'll be offering for sale some interesting tobacco seeds. Some of these seeds can be bought elsewhere and some can't. What I would like to do is to make it easier to get you started growing your own. For example, there won't be any shipping and handling charges. There is no minimum order, so if you want to give it a shot and buy one pack of seeds it'll cost a whopping $3.00. There will be discounts on larger orders.Oh, one more thing that I should mention here. I'm working alone but I will do the very best I can to keep this page interesting, informative and helpful. I'll answer all your email and fill your orders promptly.Alright here we go.Lets start with the seeds. My packets contain more than 1000 seeds, enough to produce hundreds of sprouts. They are the largest packets on the market for the price. There are some rules and regulations about what varieties of tobacco can be grown in each state. For instance here in Pa. we are only permitted to grow about five different varieties. These rules only apply to commercial growers though. My local Ag. agent told me that if I keep it to personal use I can grow whatever varieties I please. I have been growing about seventy plants a year of different varieties and have had no problem. Actually it seems a little silly to even mention this when the term, for personal use, is so ambiguous when you think about it. George Burns said that he smoked about ten cigars a day. He would have been allowed to grow over five hundred plants for his own personal use. So use your own judgment and if there is any doubt in your mind check with your local agriculture agent.What struck me first about tobacco seeds is that you don't really sow them in the traditional sense. You sprinkle them on top of the soil. This was hard for me to accept, but that is how it's done. The Amish take a half ounce of seeds and put them in a sprinkling can. They fill the can with about two gallons of water, stir them up and water their prepared seed bed with this. Their seed beds are about two hundred sq. feet or more and shielded from full sun light by a suspended white sheet. They have sprouts still coming up well after late July. That's the commercial way of doing it. I handle my seeds in a slightly different way. One method that I use is taking a six inch diameter eight inch deep nursery pot. The kind that you get when you buy a rose bush. Larger is better but I have found that this is about as small a container that you should use. The idea is that once you sprinkle the seeds on top of the soil you don't want to disturb them by pouring on water. So take your pot fill it with a good potting soil and soak it. Let it drain for an hour or two then sprinkle the seeds all around on top of the soil. Now mist the seeds. Keep them moist. From this point until the sprouts are a couple of inches tall they are extremely vulnerable. Don't let them dry out, if they dry out they are gone. I've started seeds in starter beds, the ones with a plastic cover. I also tried putting cellophane over the pot and put holes in it for ventilation. I prefer to keep the seed bed open to the air. This way I have less of a chance of mold, sun scald or actually cooking the sprouts. I start the seeds around February/March and as late as April for a May/June transplanting. I set the pots on a southern facing window sill. When the weather gets a little milder I put the pots outside during the day and bring them in a night. I gradually get them accustomed to the outdoors and full sun. After May 20, when there is no chance of frost, I set them outside permanently. I want to mention here that if you have a limited growing area or no garden space at all, a five gallon plastic bucket will accommodate one plant fine. I've tried it and it works. Tobacco seeds have another interesting quality. They keep for a long time. Actually tobacco seeds will keep for several years if stored in a cool, DRY, dark place. I've experimented and successfully germinated seeds six years old. The germination rate was low but some did sprout.At this point I guess I should let you know what seeds I have for sale. I'm listing my seeds in a slightly different way. As I've mentioned earlier, I have been growing tobacco for over fourteen years. I've tried most of the leaf that's being sold. Not all, of coarse, but enough that I have settled down to six types that I use for cigars and three that I use to make cigarettes. It is my opinion that any of the cigar tobaccos can be used for smoking in a pipe or chewing. Years ago, when I smoked a pipe, I liked Cherry Blend and a rum flavored tobacco. Apple chewing tobacco was my preference. I don't know how they are made. I'm sure that information can be found on the internet and in the library.The following is a list of the seeds and how to order:#1 - Burley, for cigars. This makes a great binder, wrapper and filler. It's a deep, dark, rich leaf.#6 - A large plant with a large leaf. I use this leaf for cigar binder, wrapper and filler. I like this plant, that's why I kept it around. You won't be sorry if you try it.#9 - This is my favorite. Yes, it is. When I smoke a cigar wrapped in #9, I am at peace with the world. When I smoke a cigar wrapped in #9, bound in #1 and with the right blend of mixed fillers, I own the world. LOL. PS. It's a Havana leaf.#12 - This is a Havana leaf also. I find it milder than #9, a good wrapper and binder. When put into a filler mix it mellows everything out a bit.#13 - Havana. Yes, I love my Havana. This is a ditto of #12.#16 - This Cigar Tobacco is grown in Pennsylvania and is one of the major cash crops grown by the Amish. The leaf is huge. It has a great yield and is resistant to most diseases. The aged leaf is mild and aromatic. I use it as a filler, binder and wrapper. You won't be sorry you tried this.#19 - This seed produces a Connecticut wrapper leaf. It is grown under a canopy that filters the sun light. It needs full but filtered sun in order to produce a true fine veined wrapper leaf. If you grow it without filtering the sun light it will still produce a great wrapper leaf. The only difference is that your leaf will not be as fine veined as it would be if it were filtered.There are a few more local cigar tobaccos that I plan on testing. If I believe that they are worth your time I'll let you know. Fair enough ?Here are the Cigarette Tobaccos.#11 - Virginia Gold. Need I say more. You can smoke this only a few months after it's dried and it's good. Let it age six to ten months and it's better. After about eighteen months it's GREAT. This tobacco has a mild, mellow country flavor. It takes me back. #14 - This is a new tobacco that I've added on 3/15/03. I added this seed because after growing it for 6 years I am satisfied that it is a great tasting tobacco and easy to grow. I would compare it to #11 but, in my opinion, it has a better flavor.#18 - This is another locally grown tobacco. This is the tobacco that I started growing, over twelve years ago. One day I was passing by a farm and I stopped to talk to the Amish fellow who was planting his field. Being from the city and just moving out here, I was curious. Amos was a nice guy and still is. We talked about tobacco and he gave me a few plants to take home and try. I planted #18 and it grew and grew. I carefully tended it. Chopped and hung it. Dried it and stuffed the leaves in a cleaned five gallon joint compound bucket. The leaves must have had some moisture in them because when I opened that bucket up six months later it was bad, it got moldy. I was determined, so I went back to Amos and got a few more plants and some advise. Well, I did it right that second year, and let me tell you #18 is good leaf. I've been growing it ever since. Alone it's righteous. Bold and powerful. You've got to let this leaf cure for at least three months or the ammonia will close your wind pipe right up. LOL. Not really but if you smoke it too soon it's real strong. Let it mellow with age and I believe you will enjoy this tobacco.These are the tobacco seeds that I sell. They are $3.00 a pack, if you order more than one pack take off 50 cents each. ( That's $3.00 for the first pack and $2.50 for any additional packs. ) Order the seeds by number. i.e. 2-#1, 2-#6, 1-#9 etc. Make out the check or money order to: Dan Di Francesco and send it to: Dan Di Francesco, 552 Lloyd Rd, Oxford, Pa. 19363.One additional note that I want to add here that you should go to the forum and take advantage of the two web sites listed at the top of the page. They are good informative sites. You should also use the search tool at the top of the page. Type in what you want to research and chances are some posts will be displayed that pertain to your inquiry. Well that's about it for now. Thanks for visiting and drop by anytime. Dan Di Francesco

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